[00:00:00] Hi, I'm Chrissy Mack from Radio Northern Beaches and you've just tuned in to the Listen and Chat with Chrissy Mack Podcast. This is the space where we pull no punches, sometimes a little controversial, sometimes downright outrageous and sometimes just packed full of information that is interesting to know. On my podcast today, I'm shining a spotlight on our local business community.
[00:00:24] Joining me in the studio are some fantastic guests representing the Suburban Business Summit Northern Beaches, Spinning Axis and Tradies Mentoring Tradies. We're breaking down what you can expect at an up-and-coming Business Summit on June 30th, but we are also getting deeply personal today, diving into a candid, eye-opening conversation about navigating business with ADHD.
[00:00:50] Plus, we'll hear the inspiring story behind how Tradies Mentoring Tradies was first born. It's going to be an incredibly insightful chat. So stick around as we talk to Luke Griffin, Lucien Paris Major and Aaron Kemp. All right, listeners, today I have Luke Griffin with us. Hi, Luke. G'day, Christo. Luke, tell us all a bit about yourself and what's happening at the moment.
[00:01:14] There's a big movement happening on the Northern Beaches when it comes to business and community at present. Yeah, I'm basically a stay-at-home dad. My wife works at a uni and I came up with an idea and so far it's been embraced by two communities. I was living in Hornsby for eight years. I had the great opportunity of meeting Andrew Third. So Andrew Third is my co-director for what is the upcoming Suburban Business Summit Northern Beaches. As business leaders, last August, five of us met in the Waitaro Magpies beer garden.
[00:01:44] We thought there was a better way of doing business. Very much if you go to any type of business networking event, it's more about the trade of the business card as opposed to actually learning from that person and that individual. So the process there was talking with fantastic health leader Libby Salmon, Alex Quinn from a financial side, separately from Issue who does marketing for Oz Media, for Andrew Third who does Core Success, which is more corporate training. And we had myself who was more still working out who I actually was, to be honest. Still working out actually what business I was.
[00:02:14] Now today I call myself a corporate matchmaker. Rather than being a marketer, I guarantee one lead based on individual internet interconnection and learning individuals, people's businesses. So we actually worked towards the first event, which was in Hornsby, of which only recently I was at Karen Sanders' event. And with Karen, I was on the phone to Warren Waddell, their mayor, for about two hours, about how much he loved the first inaugural event at Hornsby. Central Coast for us was very much a proof of the pudding.
[00:02:41] The inaugural event being Hornsby gave us a great opportunity to really come together as business leaders, work out who we actually were, what we could actually deliver. From that event, Andrew and I then took it to Central Coast. So that's available on our website. So there's a video there and people can watch a one minute video of what Central Coast was. We're now working towards what we're doing on the Northern Beaches. Tell me a little bit about the program that's running at this event. Look, I think certainly taking it from the beginning, the event itself,
[00:03:08] a lot of people have been painting it as a business event and certainly is. The point of view of this event is for the whole community. So it is council, it is business. Equally, it's also community and it's charity. It will be 35 voices, five panels and seven inspirational speakers. So look, we kick off the day. We've got Sue Hines, Andrew Third, my co-director from Ausmedia. We went and met with Sue. It was great. We met with Sue Hines and David Kerr, Nikki Griffiths, if I'm correct, from Economic Development. That was an opportunity for us to really say what we were doing for the event,
[00:03:37] what we intended to do with the event and appropriately reach out for their support. Thankfully, Sue, she gave her a support as being able to open the day, which is fantastic. And obviously gives us an opportunity to start with acknowledgement to country. We've taken the North Hall and the West Rooms. So the venue is amazing. I have been advised that it's the first major conference which will be held there. So taking a little bit of pride in that. Okay. So there's going to be tables around and what's going to be on these tables? Is it business or is it community or is it charity?
[00:04:07] What have you got laid out through there and how's the plan going to go? The first part is we provide an opportunity for everyone to provide their business information. And that is certainly from a community table. We also have a collaboration table, a speakers table and a council table. Those tables are designed for everyone to be able to share their information. So we'll have volunteers there ready, set up for their communications to be able to share that information.
[00:04:31] The other part is we then provide from a business perspective to individuals the opportunity to showcase their business. So it's a destination for people to come and grab information. Okay. So you have some guests with you today. I do indeed. So how about you introduce your guests? I was just going to ask one question there, Luke. What website would I have to look up to know all about this information? Great question, Paris. And thank you for asking. S-U-B, so Sierra Universe Bravo, subsummit.com.au. Thank you. And when's your next event?
[00:05:00] Well, we're working towards Northern Beaches at the moment. So Suburban Business Summit, Northern Beaches will be held on the 29th and 30th of June. We were given an opportunity by council to take any date between the 1st of June and the end of July. And appropriately, they gave us the end of the financial year, being the 30th of June. And so we'll have a great day there, but hopefully we'll be able to explore that a little bit further over the course of the next few period of time. Now, we were just going to introduce everybody. You heard Paris pop in and ask a question there. Paris is involved as well.
[00:05:30] And just let us introduce you and then we'll get to know a little bit more about you, Paris. Okay? So Luke, would you like to introduce everybody? Absolutely. I'm honoured. I'm absolutely honoured by both the hosts of this session and Christine, thank you for your involvement. We're looking forward to your chat during the course of the day. So I believe we've got 15 minutes there associated with Northern Beaches Entertainment. And with Northern Beaches Entertainment, obviously, we're very fortunate to be here with you today. Equally around the table, I've got Paris.
[00:05:57] Paris came to me almost like a dream. We had a very... Pleasure, mate. Thank you. We were actually at a trade show, Agent Disability Expo at Rose Hill. And we had our own separate trade stands at that time. And we had a very common gentleman who had obviously supported what I was doing, supported what you were doing, Joey. You know, credit to him. He made the introduction to us. Fantastic. Actually, I think the introduction was to your mum first, being Lucy beside us here as well.
[00:06:24] But more importantly, Paris had already got to my trade stand by that stage. And Paris had actually gone, oh, what's this all about? And I'm like, I'm still trying to work out what this is all about. But yeah. So Paris, it's... Yeah, we've grown from there, mate. So we were actually with Jeff Coombs just recently on Stridefall on the beaches. And we actually supported from Entertainment. And look, your entertainment, mate, is beyond. And we were very fortunate, the first event in Hornsby, for you to be our ambassador, our entertainment for the day.
[00:06:54] Sounds very important. It was. More importantly, we actually came up with something called a Disruptor because of you. I don't know what that is, but it sounds cool. Yeah. But being Disruptor was very much the opportunity for you to showcase your skills, your yo-yo skills. More importantly, what meant so much to all of us on the day was your focus towards your journey and what the day ended up meaning to you. And mate, I take my hat off to you every time I see you for what you shared on that day. Thank you so much.
[00:07:22] And I think it's certainly something that's actually allowed me on my journey to discover ADHD myself, which I couldn't embrace at that time. Based on your involvement to what I'm doing and our friendship, I take my hat off to you, mate. So thank you. Thanks very much. That's what our business is about. It's all about connecting about ADHD people. And you had that right. Yes, performing for yo-yo. It's still a thing these days. And he's so very incredible at it. He does some amazing stunts.
[00:07:49] So if you ever need an entertainment, please let us know at spinningaxis.com. Yeah. So venue, you're listening to 88.7 and 90.3. Thank you very much. Absolute champion. But we won't take away from the credit of your national chess skills. Oh, thank you very much. Your national kayak skills. Your national yo-yo skills. Yeah. It's a very big thing. Yeah. Yep. And your position at the moment on the northern beaches. Yep. So my position is around nabbing. So we are based in Nabbing.
[00:08:18] We currently are. We are doing lots of events. As Luke, we are presenting at the Business Summit as entertainment. And after that, we are going to Coleroy with Cored Paris World, which I'm very fortunate that Luke has organized. And I'm very appreciative and always will be in his debt. So thank you very much. My pleasure. Beside us again, we have Lucy. Now, Lucy, when I first came up to her and said, I need an ambassador. I want an ambassador for this event. We'd obviously had the first ambassador and I've realized over time that that's myself.
[00:08:46] Equally, we had Rochelle Bennett and Rochelle Bennett was interviewed. So you might be able to check back some stories about her journey. But Lucy's here and Lucy's a fantastic support to her son, to Paris. It clears the brains behind what is spinning access. I feel very fortunate for both of you, for what you've done for me, for my life and time that you spent with my family as well. We were actually at the stakeholder day only recently and my seven-year-old was unwell. Lucy was there as both a mum to Paris, but also a mum to my seven-year-old. Thank you.
[00:09:16] That's okay. So Lucy's the brains. Don't worry, mum. They can't see you. You're fine. Yes, you're correct. It's radio. It's not television. I don't have any cameras in the studio today. Thanks, Paris. So Lucy. And then I've got Aaron. Aaron's recently come into my life based on the introduction of Paris and Lucy, if I understand that correctly. Yep. Yep. And then Aaron actually runs Tradies Mentoring Tradies. So very fortunate for his, we won't say the person's name, but let's call it Jamie Dury style
[00:09:46] and with inverted brackets, but in turn appropriately working here with Christine and I'm looking forward to seeing what we can deliver. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Pleasure. Thank you. Thanks, Christine. He's a very fantastic guy. I've worked with him before and he helped our business be- Helping our bills. Helping our business be sturdy and never giving up, you know, giving the old boot up the bum, you know, never giving up and, you know, really pushing us for our business. And he's volunteered so much of his time every week for over a year. Mm-hmm.
[00:10:15] Every week for an hour or a half and just helped us with our business and, yeah, all these expectations. So we are very grateful. Thank you very much. Thank you. It gets very similar to what I experienced was through business that we don't always get it right. Mm-hmm. That in turn, we obviously are on a journey and sometimes, you know, the journey is the journey that we take. Equally, as much as I found August appropriately with the business leaders as I did, we obviously shared your journey as well, Aaron. I think certainly what we identify when we go through a journey is that we have skills
[00:10:44] and we try and identify those skills to who we are individually and hopefully take those people with us. So what I want to do is I would like you to tell us, Aaron, a little bit about your tradies and also how you're involved in this movement on the Northern Beaches. Okay. So tradies, mentoring tradies was pretty much born from my own experience. My painting business almost took my life because I was so good at being a painter but not good at running a business. So we get taught how to be a good tradie at TAFE, but we don't get taught how to run a business.
[00:11:14] And so I basically made a business that helps tradies become good business owners as well as good tradies. Good on you. And actually, I'm going to, listeners, I am going to be talking to Aaron particularly on that subject in another interview because if you remember rightly, I did recently a rant about how the tradies and the way it used to work pretty well shut down by both governments. So we're going to have a talk about that.
[00:11:40] But getting back on subject, how did you get involved in this movement on the Northern Beaches? So it was recommended to me by Lucy to go and check out the website, Business Summit, because I coached Paris and Lucy. And I said, have you checked this out? Are you going to go and do it? I went, oh, I haven't even heard of it. So yeah, luckily for them, they introduced me. Then I contacted Luke and the rest is really history. I've got now a speaking gig there. I've got a table there. And we're also now involved in the community project off the back of that, which is getting Colorado cinema done up.
[00:12:10] So this seems to be just starting to stretch out like a little octopus across the Northern Beaches, little arms jumping into the different businesses and directions. But there's a few particular community projects that you're championing as well. Absolutely. Yeah. So look, certainly from our side, we had three principles for what Suburban Business Summit is. That's certainly through the journey that Andrew Third and I have had. So what we saw was obviously the importance to have a template and very much the template is the bones.
[00:12:37] I think, Christine, you added very much the meat there before in your comment. For us, it is bringing a template or a bones to your community. So we are a one day, one collective voice, one LGA. We have sat with Lucas Haleslton from Service NSW Business Bureau. I was actually on conversation with him early today about what it means to local businesses. The important part of what we're trying to identify and what we've identified through two LGA's already, being Hornsby and probably Central Coast, is where the grassroots is.
[00:13:07] It's about collaboration. It's about opportunity for individuals to come together who may be wearing, as much as I worked out with Ashley Epton the other day, is also part of my company, which is Grave Concept Development Services. In turn, what we worked out is, although I thought I had 11 hats, I was actually wearing 15 hats. And I think a lot of businesses who are small business are not just wearing the one hat. And I think certainly if you're working nine to five, you're pretty much in that top tier side. You know, the second, third, we're obviously on a journey.
[00:13:33] But certainly from a grassroots perspective, we've got very much a mix of people and a mix of people who have very much different personalities as much as we've got across the table today. So yeah, certainly the first principle or the first project, which we see for all our events, is to identify an ambassador. Equally, thank you to Lucy for being our ambassador for this event. We've been working on a partnership with Paris, which is a commitment to our business, Spinning Access, and obviously with Paris. That's Spinning Axis, Spinning Axis A-X-I-S. There you go. Good man. Good man. I love it.
[00:14:02] That's the ADHD coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've done this before, haven't you? I have, yeah. It's so good, mate. So good. So good. I'm going to bring Paris into our studio for one of our training sessions because he's making absolutely fantastic. Oh, he looks sensational. Yeah, make sure he's working for me first. Yeah, there you go. What's a paycheck? Yeah, exactly. So number two principle is very much designed about community projects. And I was very fortunate to meet Christine at Northern Beaches and Beyond Networking Group,
[00:14:33] which Jane Ipperis runs. She does a fabulous job at that. And that group came together today. So that was great to see them on a monthly basis, of which she's actually helped me grow my business. But part of that group was Christine. I'm not sure if you recall, Christine, when I met you the first time, I said, you know, who are you? What do you do? And everything else. I do. But appropriately, you told me about the fabulous projects that you're working on. You've got the fabulous radio station that were here today. But equally, you've got Coleroy Theatre. We came down quite a few times. I've brought quite a bit of my crew down.
[00:15:03] John Baptiste from Michelon Events. Equally, Vijay, who has just actually just taken the role of sales consultant for Suburban Business Summit. A number of others who've come down and actually been able to see the venue. We see the beauty. We see and understand that, I guess, the... Challenges. The vision. The challenges. The vision. We met Roy. You know, Roy's fantastic. If you can imagine a living, breathing Elvis, we've got him. And I think he's, you know, his heart is pure. And, you know, he's an amazing gentleman.
[00:15:31] Equally, it's matched by what Christine brings. And that's obviously number two. Separately, the three principle is our charities. So every event that we do, as much as we had Ronald McDonald House North, as much as Tony Davis from The Biker's Hand, equally celebrating Central Coast Women's Shelter for 50 years. That's what we did on the Central Coast. We're doing something very similar to our charities here at Suburban Business Summit Northern Beaches. It is important to uplift the charities of your community. And those charities are Mongrels Men.
[00:16:01] Tim Hewson leads it fantastically for Blue Space. Equally, we've also got Fantastic For The Love Of Dogs Academy with Anna Watson. And she appropriately is looking into helping those have special powers or superpowers to better be and better employed around the purpose of dogs. So all this is available through Sub Summit or Suburban Business Summit on your LinkedIn or appropriately on your Facebook. But we've got to be sort of sending out all different stories. So yeah, certainly as it continues to grow, we seem to get a bit more of a stronger template
[00:16:30] or the bones are getting stronger. But equally, the community voice is getting stronger as well. And I want to have Lucy tell us a little bit about what she feels about this happening on the Northern Beaches as a small business person and also as a resident. I've grown up in the Northern Beaches. I was born here and raised here and went to school here and worked here. And so I am just thrilled about this concept because I just, living on the Northern Beaches, just think that a majority of people are just dog eat dog, if you know what I mean.
[00:16:59] And they don't think about the community. There's no free things everyone wants to hand out or, you know, a paycheck. They don't want to do things for free. They don't want to put community first. And so when Aaron came along and offered his services for free and was helping us for free, I was like, but why? You know, what's the catch? Yeah, yeah, what's the catch? Oh, I have to pay you back. Like I keep saying to him, I'm not going to pay you back. Because it's always like everyone wants a handout. Everyone wants something. He wants something back from you. And I just kept saying to him, how much do I owe you?
[00:17:29] How much do I owe you? And the same thing with Luke is, it's, yeah, he's given us both, Luke and Aaron's given us both so much, what do you call it? Support. Support. Yeah, exactly. Support and business. Motivation. Definitely motivation. Friendship. Kick up the bum when necessary. Yeah, that's it. And a voice. Direction. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, like a lot of things that I can't, because I'm very nervous, can't say. But yeah, we're very, very grateful for these. You can hear the emotion in your voice.
[00:17:57] I can see it in, I've actually have to ask her to hold her hands away from the table because she was so expressive. Yeah. Now you have a question for Aaron. Oh, well, Aaron, I know a lot of our tradesmen because I used to go to TAFE and I used to go to school. A lot of people want to say, oh, I want to be a plumber or want to be this and or they wanted to have a business but they didn't know where to start. How do we contact you for any more information?
[00:18:25] Well, I'm pretty much on every social media platform there is. Lucky boy. I'm not shy of a video. You sure about TikTok? Yep. Oh, wow. That's good. And YouTube. Aaron, weren't you number one in the chat GP2 the other week? Yep. For Business Coach Retreaties. I came up, that was a goal of mine to get number one for Business Coach Retreaties. Well done. Then I slipped to number five but with a strong recommendation that I was the right person. That's wonderful. So how do I contact you?
[00:18:52] So generally on my website, mate, www.trainiesmentoringtradies.com.au is the best place to start. All the information is on there, thanks. Fantastic. Can we find you on LinkedIn, Instagram and everything? Yep. Just under Tradies Mentoring Tradies or just Google Aaron Kemp and I'll come up. Fantastic. That's awesome. How about you? You've done so much to support our small business and you've done so much to now for the community, for New South Wales and now you're heading to the Northern Beaches. So how can we do our part as the community support you? How can we get in contact with you?
[00:19:21] In Paris, it's amazing. And I take my hat off to this guy. How old are you, man? I am 19. Incredible. You are so mature in your outlook in life. Our intention is solely to uplift the community. And if we can do that by simply allowing someone like yourself to have a better voice or alternately with the 35 people on the program, as much as we've got five panels to the point we've got seven inspirationals.
[00:19:47] What we'd love to see is people jump on the website, have a look at the video, check out the program. More importantly, come along on the day. Website address. Website address. Yeah. W.SUBSummit.com.au. Subsummit.com.au. So in turn, Suburban Business Summit will continue to grow, obviously through a range of different suburbs, of which we already have Illawarra booked for the 17th of September. We also separately have, based on invitation back from the mayor, Warren Waddell, who I
[00:20:16] couldn't actually get off the phone for two hours because he loved it so much, back on the 5th of November. So this year will be four events. Next year will be eight events. So we're going into Geelong and into Canberra. But more importantly, it's here in the Northern Beaches. And that's for the love of what's happening here. Lucy, you had a question and I interrupted you. No, no, no, that's fine. Christine, I was just going to say, you must be doing a wonderful job because we went along to the Job movie the other week, about two or three weeks ago, and the cinema was absolutely packed.
[00:20:46] Every seat was packed. It was. That was wonderful. Awesome. That was fantastic. That's what we want to see. I've never, ever seen it so full in my life. And I've grown up here and I've never seen every seat was full. I went to the movie one time years ago. I was the only, maybe four people were turned up there. So you're honestly doing something, Christine. So thank you. Yeah, absolutely. We've struggled a little bit to get it up and running and get the people in the seats. But we had the Bee Gees last week and that was almost full again too.
[00:21:15] So that's the community support. And I have to say thank you so much to all of the community. And again, this is why these sort of things are happening on Northern Beaches. The Peninsula suffered so badly over COVID and they had an extended COVID because of the council shutting everything down. So, you know, the businesses around here hurt and they got hurt and they're still struggling to survive. And some of them didn't, obviously.
[00:21:42] So something like this to get everybody together, to encourage everybody, to help with people that are struggling with information towards what you can do, which direction you can go, who can help you, all that sort of stuff has got to be a bonus. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Even just inclusion around having special needs, like where business spinning access is all about inclusion. And it's all about... Accepting and supporting invisible disabilities. Yeah.
[00:22:12] And it's okay to have a labour. It's okay to walk down the street and go, I've got ADHD or I've got autism. You don't judge me. Don't put me in a box. Don't let me have a voice. I'm still like everyone else. That's right. And there's such a lot in the news at the moment about that. But Paris, you've got a shirt on that says ADHD. It's not a disability. What does it say below it? It's definability. There you go. Explain that to us. And this is not the only shirt I wear. I wear many other shirts that we just apply with spinningaccess.com.au.
[00:22:42] Which one is... Don't judge what you don't understand. One of my favourite ones is... Instead of ACDC, it's ADHD. And it says the highway to... Hey, look, a squirrel. That's my favourite t-shirt. I wear it all the time. It's really good for people... Gives a sense of humour when you're on the bus. When you just don't feel like other people are listening to you. And it's just a constant sign for people to read. And you don't have to explain yourself every single time.
[00:23:10] Because I like to think that as blind people have blind sticks. People who can't walk usually have wheelchairs. ADHD people wear this t-shirt. So... Because it's not really visible, is it? Exactly. It's not a visible thing. And how many people would have to say... Oh, you've got to settle down. No, sorry I've got ADHD. Oh, I've got ADHD. It's just a mental... Keep saying it over again. This is just a constant sign for people to let them know that I've got ADHD. And if I don't pay attention, it's not my fault. It's just one of the things I have. And also... Yeah, like, that's a girl. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
[00:23:39] Or you miss a bus stop. Or you do certainly behaviours and different things that people judge you on. Oh, he's doing that. Or he's singing out loud. Or he's dancing on the street. Or something like that. Or he's yo-yoing. You know, abnormal behaviour that I suppose is not so socially acceptable. And you just go, well, you know, look at my t-shirt. It's a selfish boundary. There's a great movie that you had on at the cinema recently called I Swear. Yes. Right? Which is about a guy with Tourette's. It was.
[00:24:06] It's an amazing movie that everyone should watch to understand what somebody with a disability actually goes through. Exactly. That particular one, I actually finally got to watch. We don't have it on at the cinema at the moment. It's finished there. But I wasn't sure that I wanted to watch it. People kept coming down saying, very confronting, very amazing movie. But when I did watch it, I understood.
[00:24:31] And it was more about not so much the issue is how people react to it. And how cruel, how so amazingly cruel people can be. Yeah, it can be. Absolutely. I know. Definitely. Like, it's hard enough when, if you're a normal person, when someone gets up your nose and sort of tells you there's something wrong with you or you're not good enough. How does that happen with you, Paris? Oh, it happens all the time. Like, because this is why I don't have a lot of friends.
[00:25:00] Because the conversation doesn't really go that way. Like, I'll ask very inappropriate questions that have come up. But I just really need to know, just like, sort of like Tourette's. Like, you'll say, hello, how are you? And I said, oh, how was the bathroom today? And I was like, what? Where did that come from? Where did that come from? And then the loss of connection just happens. Staying on conversation is one of the hardest things. It's just one of the hardest things. And to stay on topic and to stay connected with a person, people don't understand that.
[00:25:28] So if I was put in that situation, I'd just say to you, oh, that was fine. Thank you. And go on with the conversation so you can bring me back. Does that work to bring you back? Well, people have to constantly remind me to bring it back. And then I have to remind of where I fit in the conversation. Speaking of that, I'm actually quite hungry. Yeah. We did have lunch, by the way. We were as much. Okay. Well, that helps us a little bit in how to sort of get into that area with ADHD.
[00:25:57] But again, I think I'm going to have to do a full show on just ADHD. I would love you too, Christine. Absolutely. ADHD is one of those conditions that we're now experiencing what ADHD really is. Before, back in the 19s, 20s, people didn't know what ADHD really was. And then now we've got to a point where, oh, ADHD, now apparently everyone has ADHD. It's when people have gone to school and said, no, I can't concentrate. I've got ADHD.
[00:26:24] And then the teachers were forced to say, oh, that's fine. But they may have just used the excuse, the label that they don't have. Yeah. And that is worrying. I mean, that is wrong. It is so wrong. But tell me, Aaron, you mentored. So tell me a little bit about that. So I was introduced to Paris and Lucy through Moana Safe Space, Mel Capri. Yeah. Yeah. And she introduced me and she said, hey, look, I've got this couple, like a mother and son, and they could really use some advice or some mentoring.
[00:26:53] I said, yeah, send them a number. And that's when we started going. And then we talked about what they were doing. And then they said, can we make a business out of it? I was like, absolutely. Here's how you make a website. Here's how you do this. This is what you need to put on it. This is what you do. Paris goes away and does the whole thing overnight. Oh, my God. As you do. Yeah, as you do. Yeah. Because he's... I was motivated to do, to present that because someone told me it was possible. So I did it. Yeah. That's excellent. Paris always goes, oh, mum, have you done this?
[00:27:23] You should have done that. He goes, you should have done that yesterday. I'm like... So there's a good sign of ADHD. If you think like this, you probably have it. So what people think progress is today, as our brain, we say, why can we do that? How can we didn't do that last week? That's what, well, progress. So what people think... Pressure. So what people say, oh, I've achieved this. Oh, yes. I've done 100 push-ups today. And my brain says, how can we didn't do that yesterday? Yesterday. So we're always constantly trying to impress our own self. And we're always constantly saying, why can we do that yesterday?
[00:27:53] Because we don't believe in time. We believe in that you can do everything overnight. Okay. That is some pressure to put on yourself. They believe in A, B and Z. There's no C, D, E. No, no, no. They just go to the bigger picture and go, yep, we can do this. And then how about all the steps in between that mum has to do? What steps? That's why I bring my coordinators on board. I had to actually employ another person to come on board for that.
[00:28:19] And speaking about the business summit, because I know a lot of people may not listen to the radio. Is there an easy way to get to the business summit? Yeah, there's quite a few different ways of getting to the business summit. So the business summit will kick off at 8 o'clock in the morning and we've got coffee all day long. So if you want to keep your concentration, certainly the coffee's there for you. Rodney for My Three Beans. I guess the process there of the day is kicking off from 9.20 on stage. But obviously we'll have our exhibitors there before.
[00:28:47] But you can certainly take a range of different public transport for the B1 bus route. B1 goes from, so the B1 you can take from the city junction all the way in the city to Monervale. So that's a really easy way to go. And if people don't know where it is, it is at New Woywood Centre that has just opened. And it starts on the 30th of June. So it's near Woywood Square. There's a new Woywood Centre right near the Pittwater Gulf. So it's just there. Arrive at what time, Luke? So you can arrive up to probably 9 o'clock.
[00:29:16] Obviously 9 o'clock would be good to start seating everyone and getting everyone ready for the day. But more importantly, we'll be able to finish up at 4 o'clock and then take the B1 bus route back down, which then is at 4.30, kicks off the after party. Yep. Awesome. And where's the after party? The after party is at our favourite place. It's at Coleroy Cinema. At 1097 Pittwater Road. At that way, the B1 goes from all the way, goes to Coleroy. It rides every five minutes.
[00:29:43] So there's no excuse not to come at the local business summit. Yeah, I'd suggest parking your car and enjoying the night. Certainly we've got some great beverages and great theatre, great entertainment as well. Okay, well, I need to wrap this up. So you're listening to Radio Northern Beaches on 88.7 and 90.3 FM and also live streaming across the northern beaches around Australia and all over the world on rnb.org.au. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you.
[00:30:13] And you've been listening to an interview with Luke Griffin from Suburban Business Summit Northern Beaches, Lucy Ann Paris Major from Spinning Axis, which is AXIS, and Aaron Kemp from Tradies Mentoring Tradies. All right. I hope I've given you a lot to think about and talk about and debate and maybe disagree with. Don't forget to follow, like and share. Stay safe and I'll catch you next time.

